again, president clinton proposed a cops program that did, in the design originally, was for that to provide armed trained security in our schools. that flourished, but then it was defunded until it pretty well stopped, but it started with president clinton. and then you also, i make the comparison with our, they call it the federal flak deck officer program, but it's a pilot. after 9/11 pilots said you train me, i shg, i'll carry a g the cockpit and it will never happen again. and there's controversy, it's a sensitive environment, guns don't belong in the airplane or the cockpit. the pilots showed there's a training program that the federal government sponsored and they were trained, it protects the airplane, not one incident of a problem. >> let me just show, i've been saying that this is feel-good legislation, that there's motion, a the lot of motion, and lot of rhetoric, a lot of props being used, exploittation of a tragedy. in new york, they passed a law this week and i'm going to put up on the screen a picture. two guns, the exact same gun, exact same caliber of bullet, and one